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Tech21 SansAmp VT Bass – technical review

Silent Fly

Commercial User
May 8, 2006
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London - UK
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Recently, a friend lent me a Tech21 SansAmp VT Bass to try. The net is full of user reviews on the VT but I though it was a good opportunity to write a review focussed on the technical aspects and the construction.

I hope you will find it interesting.

/// Construction 3/5
The VT is built in a nice and solid aluminium box. It is the same box used by a lot of other pedals and the size is the same of other Tech21 pedals like the SansAmp Classic or the Bass DI.

The circuit board is completely SMD with part of the circuit inside a resin blob. I guess the resin part is to protect the design from reverse engineering attempts. An effort that in the vast majority of cases is totally pointless.

The consequence is that if the pedal stops working you are pretty much on your own. On the positive side, the pedal is cheaper to produce and it costs less.

The potentiometers appear to be of good quality. The battery door looks a little bit delicate but in these days not too many people use batteries anyway.

/// Bypass 5/5
The pedal is not true-bypass but the bypass works very well. The frequency response is flat with the pedal in bypass.

/// Connections 5/5
Input. I didn’t measure it but it should be 1 M ohm. The same input impedance of almost al Boss pedals and other brand’s pedals.

Output. Accordingly to the manual, it can drive low impedance devices like mixers. In other words you do not need a DI to connect the VT to a mixer. If you need to connect the VT to an XLR input, a jack to XLR cable is more than adequate.

In my opinion this is a good choice. In a recording environment, cables are usually short and XLR connections are not essential. Moreover, the lack of XLR-balanced connector helps keep the costs down making the pedal more affordable.

/// Cabinet simulation 3/5
It is essentially a steep low pass filter set to cut everything above roughly 4.5 kHz.

It also cuts around -3dB at 30Hz. If you play 5/6 string and you have a cabinet that can go that low, you may hear a little bit less presence on the low-B but it shouldn’t be that strong. Unfortunately, it can’t be compensated by turning up the low knob. The low control combined to the low cut produces more or less a mid control tuned on 90Hz.

There is also a slight emphasis (+2dB) around 3kHz.

Unfortunately, because it cuts everything above 4.5kHz the zing that a lot of slap players like is totally removed. I would have like a switch to remove the cab simulation. It would have made the pedal more flexible. (Tech21 added a button to remove the cab simulation from the processing in a new series of Character pedals).

/// Controls 4/5
I analysed the frequency response of the pedal and I discovered I few interesting facts.

The high control is a boost only control (the manual says that the controls are +/- 12dB). For a flat position I had to turn the high knob all the way down. The mid controls is not at 500Hz (as indicated in the manual) but around 865Hz

I usually don’t like boost-only high but I must admit that with the VT it works well. Because the cab simulation, the pedal is a relatively "dark" sounding and the boost-only makes the control effective and musical.

The low knob works also well. It doesn’t sound boomy or too aggressive. It makes the sound fatter without changing the tone of the bass too much.

/// Mid and Character 4/5
Believe it or not, Mid and Character are almost the same control. Frequency wise there are some differences: Mid boost is set to 865Hz, Character boost is 1462Hz but Character and Mid cut overlap perfectly: 880Hz.

If you are not convinced try the following:
- Drive =0
- Volume = same volume bypass/active
- High = 0
- Low = 12:00
- Character = 12:00

Turn down mid to 0 and play something. Turn up the mid to 12:00 and set Character to 0. The sound should be the same.

So why do they operate differently? The reason is the position in the circuit. Character is before distortion, the low/mid/high controls are after distortion.

It is a simple but very effective solution probably inherited directly from the SansAmp Classic. In practical terms the Character knob pushes the saturation forward (or backward) on the midrange. Because the mid control is tuned in the same area, the tone effects of the Character control can be compensated post-distortion if the mids are too strong.

The drawback is that the Character control can generate a lot of noise if turned up above a certain level.

/// Sound 5/5
I am not heavy user of saturation/distortion/fuzz but the VT was a pleasant surprise. Not unexpectedly, it excels in reproducing amp-like saturation but even used without saturation it is a good sounding pedal.

I recommend it if you are looking for a pedal that can give you a fat/saturated sound. If you are looking for a way to EQ your tone I think there are better solutions.
 
really enjoyed your review. don't know if i agree with all of your findings, but i think it was a fair review and what you're saying mostly bears out how i hear it without the benefit of measurements.

besides danny's thread, there is also another thread on here where someone else took a lot of measurements with the vt and showed that the character knob and mid knob do indeed work very similarly, but the character knob added additional harmonic content that give ampeg amps their character, pardon the pun. and it does the same on the other character pedals. maybe being before the drive has something to do with that? and if so, what do they do to it to make the other character pedals sound authentic to the amps they're mimicking? i haven't tried that thing you did with the two knobs, so i'll try that next time i hook it up and see.

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=607213

now when danny came out with his thread, i took his near flat settings and compared them by ear to my markbass lmii, which scopes to near flat with everything centered and filters off. other than the aforementioned hi/lo cuts, it sounded nearly identical. so i tend to go along with his finding that the treble knob is flat at 10:30.

re: speaker sim defeat, if it means that the newer pedals are more usable with bass if the speaker sim can be defeated, then i'm for it. just had my british pedal modded by www.putnamguitars.com to add more lows to it. but what makes that vt pedal so attractive to me is the fact that it's got all those cuts. that's what ampeg is all about. i turn that on, and no matter how big a marcus miller fan the soundman is, he won't ever be able to make me sound that bright ;) plus it's adding $30 to the price of the pedals. i'd rather pay $60 and get mike's mod, which not only makes it more usable for bass but preserves its usefulness for guitar. and it doesn't add back in the high end past 4.5!!
 
Thanks - I am glad you enjoyed my review.

(…)
besides danny's thread, there is also another thread on here where someone else took a lot of measurements with the vt and showed that the character knob and mid knob do indeed work very similarly, but the character knob added additional harmonic content that give ampeg amps their character, pardon the pun. and it does the same on the other character pedals. maybe being before the drive has something to do with that?(…)

Yes – I think it is exactly what happens. The Character knob saturates the “distortion section” of the pedal creating harmonics.

(…) and if so, what do they do to it to make the other character pedals sound authentic to the amps they're mimicking?

I don’t know it for sure but I believe it is all down to different filtering. I would be surprised it the distortion/clipping section was substantially different.

(…)
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=607213

now when danny came out with his thread, i took his near flat settings and compared them by ear to my markbass lmii, which scopes to near flat with everything centered and filters off. other than the aforementioned hi/lo cuts, it sounded nearly identical. so i tend to go along with his finding that the treble knob is flat at 10:30.
The frequency response I measured is almost identical to this:
EQTreblesweep.jpg

The treble knob never cuts; the flat position is at 0.
I believe the perception is that it sounds more linear with the knob at 10:30 because it compensates the treble cut (?)

(…)
re: speaker sim defeat (…) what makes that pedal so attractive to me is the fact that it's got all those cuts. that's what ampeg is all about(…)

I entirely agree. The high cut is very much part of the pedal sound and without it wouldn’t be the same. Having said that, I would have liked the option to remove the cab simulator. I some cases it can be useful.
 
The frequency response I measured is almost identical to this:
EQTreblesweep.jpg

The treble knob never cuts; the flat position is at 0.
I believe the perception is that it sounds more linear with the knob at 10:30 because it compensates the treble cut (?)
hmm, never thought of that! but yeah, your two graphs do look quite identical. i think i'm going to try it next time with the treble rolled off and see how that sounds. it does have an inordinate amount of treble response for sure. but that's to mimic the ultra-hi switch on the svt, which also has an inordinate amount of treble.
 
Because "true bypass" is a known variable. It sounds like your signal chain while a buffered bypass can alter your tone or otherwise effect your signal in a number of ways. The only arguments I've read against "true bypass" have to do with longer signal chains degrading the signal which is only a problem for folks with longer signal chains, as far as I can tell.
 
Because (IMHO) the buffered bypass that Tech21 use sounds noticeably better than the one Boss and Digitech use, so I suppose it's worth mentioning.

well you at least called it a buffer

Because "true bypass" is a known variable. It sounds like your signal chain while a buffered bypass can alter your tone or otherwise effect your signal in a number of ways. The only arguments I've read against "true bypass" have to do with longer signal chains degrading the signal which is only a problem for folks with longer signal chains, as far as I can tell.

you'd be surprised how much degredation there is on a mere PT mini with TBP pedals

if buffers are less of a known variable, it is only because one doesn't know enough

but i wont hijack this thread any further
 
To the OP-

Yes, I know the sounds it makes, and agree it sounds good for what it is designed to do. I need something that is way more flexible, so thanks--you saved me from the hassle of buying/selling one.

Have your reviewed the Tone Hammer?
 
Yes – I think it is exactly what happens. The Character knob saturates the “distortion section” of the pedal creating harmonics.
...I believe it is all down to different filtering. I would be surprised it the distortion/clipping section was substantially different...

The frequency response I measured is almost identical to this:
EQTreblesweep.jpg

The treble knob never cuts; the flat position is at 0.
I believe the perception is that it sounds more linear with the knob at 10:30 because it compensates the treble cut (?)

Great review, thank you for explaining on a technical level, how the VT works its magic !!! :)